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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: October 29, 2010, 09:48:01 AM »
I should listen to some of these, but sort of scared.

scared? the txiv coj xai is talking/lecturing YOU the living and not the dead. there is nothing to be afraid of. you will only be a better person, love your parentsand. then comes the most scariest part, 'what happens when it's their turn to go?' what will you do?

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: October 29, 2010, 12:47:43 AM »
enjoy...

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: October 29, 2010, 12:46:40 AM »
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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: October 28, 2010, 10:38:22 PM »
OK. links should work. i've added a few.

enjoy.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:56:20 PM »
sorry guys, i've been too busy with work lately and no time to update the links. i will try to fix it when i get home.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« on: October 27, 2010, 12:20:11 AM »
see my other post

http://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,183608.0.html

and click on 'xyom cuab ua tsaug'.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: August 31, 2010, 10:59:11 PM »
sprite,

txiv coj xai has no special power other than an acting orator. unlike a shaman, a txiv xaiv is a learnt thing and not a spiritual cause. xa plig/qhuab ke i've heard hmong church catholic believers sang the songs and many others txiv xaiv songs, which none has to do/against the christian God. i agree that it can be tailored to fit the christian god. as a matter of fact there is a christian txiv xaiv book. try google it.

the line drawn between hmong religion and christian belief is the 'death song'.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: xyom cuab: ua tsaug
« on: August 12, 2010, 09:40:59 AM »
xyom cuab:

ua tsaug mog,
luag hais tias, yeeb vim peb tsev xyom cuab,
tsev mob tsev nkeeg, tsev puas tsev ntsoog
ntog ib teeg, tu ib sawv
los koj tsis cia li, koj tseem xav neej xav tsav,
xav ntsuab xav ze,
koj tseem cab yag cab nco, tshaj ntuj qa nco nto
tuaj pab peb tsev xyom cuab nta dab nta qhua kom ntseg log puas tam ncej txawb

hnub qab nram lub ntsis,
peb tsev xyom cuab txawj ua lub neej ces yuav pauj tau koj tus txiaj tus ntsig no lau
nram qab nram ntsis tsev xyom cuab tsis txawj ua lub neej los,
koj tus txhia ntsha yuav nqa txhia ntsig yuav ris no laus mog.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: funeral question....
« on: July 26, 2010, 11:13:33 AM »
typical yuav koob hmoov before burning the paper money. one person is chosen to represent the family during the txiv xaiv song about burning paper money. after that they burn the paper. the belief is if any part of the paper remains after the fire, these are 'koob hmoov' left from the spirit. the paper is bagged and given to the family for good luck.

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Computer & Technology / Re: Internet TV
« on: July 22, 2010, 03:53:05 PM »
^^ i gotta try this.

you can also connect your computer to tv so you can watch it on your big screen  O0

hdmi for video and sound. hopefully you have a new laptop/pc otherwise bring out the double speakers.  O0

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Computer & Technology / Re: Internet TV
« on: July 21, 2010, 11:48:52 PM »
watch for google tv coming later this year. same with boxee the 'box set' with remote control.

internet tv have so much more than cable and satellite. so much freedom and less out of pocket.

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Computer & Technology / Re: Internet TV
« on: July 21, 2010, 11:45:09 PM »
just found out that firefox has an add-on toolbar to watch over 1000 channels. go to firefox.com>click add-ons (top tap) and search for 'tv-fox'> download and watch.

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Computer & Technology / Internet TV
« on: July 21, 2010, 12:48:18 PM »
my dishnetwork contract expire this month and i'm not going back to paying $60/month for the limited time i watch tv. so i'm putting together a guide/series of things i can do with internet tv. more or less for noobs like myself and others who are interested. if you have more, please add.

say goodbye to cable/statellite

Internet TV

-Connect antenna to TV to get local HD channels
-Install BOXEE program at http://www.boxee.tv on laptop to watch full TV episodes, movies, shows from various sources such as Netflix, Flickr, Youtube, Hulu.
-For sports, access ESPN3 on the web or watch on local HD channels
-Watch LIVE shows at channelsurfing .net
-install tenchistv toolbar from  http://www.tenchistv.com/   and watch unlimited PPVs and other networks. You can also suscribe $9.99/month for unlimited HD programmings/PPVs.

everything i need, customized for less than my current satellite bill.




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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: June 02, 2010, 01:02:19 PM »
Slude,

This is the husband of this nickname. I'm willing to pay you for every clear copies you have of all the xivxaiv, beginning to end. 

I prefer them to be in order since I have no clue what the sequence is, but I love to listen to it.

you mean the book or recording? i have the book but i am not the author so i can't sell copies to you. i can refer you to the author.

but

i have all of his voice recording txiv xaiv from a funeral (begining to end) which i attended and recorded. these ARE mine and i can share them with you. i've begun to write a few down, in no order but it's a long process.

where do you live? i'm from wis.

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Funeral Rituals & Customs / Re: Txiv Xaiv: funeral songs
« on: May 26, 2010, 02:58:32 PM »
28:Xa Qauv Sawv Kev

Seems like sunrise is here. The elders, descendants and everyone.
Seems like this entire time, we made offers to yours ancestors, finished the ceremony.
our blessings are your father’s blessings.  Our words are your father’s words.
Seems like this entire time, the oldest sons we gave hats. The youngest sons we gave shoes.
We’ve taught the oldest to be generals, we’ve taught the youngest to be leaders.
Seem like we packed wisdom on your backs, blessings in your arms.

Seems like sunrise is here, sunrise will bring shadows, morning will bring light
The sun is rising, it’s time to prepare for your father’s departure. It’s time for your father to leave
It’s your father’s time to go his way, your father will leave his house

Sunrise is to bring clouds, rain is to bring bitter. Now your father is leaving, he’s going to break his family ties
Sunrise is to bring bitter, rain is to bring clouds. Time for your father to leave his household
Flower blossom but flower is bitter, tree fruitful but fruits are bitter
Time for your father to go, now your father will have to divide his crops

Seems like your father’s spirit rather stay with you, he miss you so much but time calls for him to go
Your father misses his sons, adores his daughters. He wants to stay, but time calls for his spirit to go
He is cutting his earthly ties, with the clothes on his back, time to leave his family behind
Families, sons and daughter-in-laws, your father is going far beyond the sky, he is going to climb over 9 mountains and down 10 valleys
Do you miss your father or do you not?
If you miss him, grab a white cloth and go wash the sweats off his face.

Seems like now your father is standing at the gate, your father misses you much and doesn’t want to leave.
Your father turns his face to see you, turns his head to tell you

This is what he said
Seems like every normal night and day, your father’s objective is incomplete
You brought relatives, young and old to accompany your father
Today you father has nothing left for you to see, nothing left for you to view
Your father’s objective is complete, his funeral is over
Therefore, take the relatives, young and old back to their houses
Seems like the heaven is high and wide, the earth is deep and long,  awaiting for your father to reside

Seems like when you return to your home. Your house will be a mess, unsettled and unbearable stay
Back at home, your house will be like a jungle unable to sustain
You will remember  the time when you father is living well with you
Seems like you would go to work, venture for a day, when you arrived home
Your father is home, cleaning cooking your left over food.
Seems like your front and back yards are purged of rats and birds
Your father watched your son, looked after your daughter with warmth and comfort

Seems like today, your father has left.
After a day of work, your house will be a mess
There will be no one to heat your left over foods
Seems like your front and back yards will be full of rats and birds
Seems like today, your father has left.
When you returned home from work, there will be no one to watch your son, no one to look after your daughter
You will realize  how much you miss your father.

Seems like you look at a distance, there is someone who appears to be your father
Walks and talks like your father, you move towards him. 3 steps, 4 steps closer and grab to his arm
He’s not your father, he’s just your uncle. He only loves you because he feels sorry for you.
He loves you a little, not unlike your father who gave birth to you.

Seems like you see a figure, old like him. Walks and talks like your father.
You move closer, 1 step 2 steps near him, grab him by his hands.
You look but he’s not your father. He’s your uncle or relative.
You wonder whether to call him father. He loves you but not to his heart. He only loves you because he feels sorry for you
He loves a little unlike your father who loves you with all his heart

Seems like when you return to your home. Your house will be a mess, unsettled and unbearable stay
You realized that financially you’re drained. Spent all your money, sacrificed all your animals
Seems like you view your house as empty, messy unable to live
You realized you spent everything, sacrificed all your animals for your father
You draw up a piece of squared paper to help track your father’s path.
But you can’t follow his footsteps,
sons and daughter-in-laws. Gather up a squared piece of paper with stripes to follow your father
But you can’t track his footsteps, you can’t follow his whereabouts
Daughters and son-in-laws

Seems like your father went away. One of his spirit will rest near the grave, there is one which will climb to the gates of heaven
Remember after the 3rd months, the 3rd full moon, there are 30 days to a month
Remember to fetch your father’s spirit, remember to release his spirit near the grave, is the only way to set him free
Your father has one spirit, sleeping in the ground. There is one more, ascending to the owner’s gates of heaven
Seems like after the 3rd months, the 3rd full moon, one month is 30 days
Remember to fetch your father’s spirit, free him from the grave


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