Don't Blaming Trump and the GOP.

[Hung_Low]

Two stimulus packages aimed at helping those that are suffering because of the COVID-19 have been shot down by the Dems.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dem-senator-breaks-party-coronavirus-185623014.html

It's so bad that even one of their own is embarrassed about it.

The reason for their votes against it?

Negotiations between congressional Republicans and Democrats have stalled as Democrats introduced several demands for additions to any coronavirus aid package. Those demands reportedly included “increased fuel emissions standards for airlines” as well as an “expansion of wind and solar tax credits.”

The legislative demands came after House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told House Democrats on Thursday that the coronavirus stimulus represented “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

What does fuel emissions, expansion of tax credits to wind and solar energy, student loan forgiveness, etc. have to do with this pandemic?

A separate House proposal introduced by Pelosi:

The Democrats' latest draft obtained by NPR, which is more than 1,400 pages long, would prevent corporations from using taxpayer money for stock buybacks, boost unemployment insurance, strengthen the child and earned income tax credits and inject nearly $40 billion into schools and universities to stabilize funding. It also directs billions of dollars in grant funding for states to carry out this year's election through the Election Assistance Commission. - NPR

Again, what does college tuition, earned income credits and the elections have to do with the virus? Note: maybe Pelosi will again tell Congress to just vote for it and find out what's in it like she did with Obamacare.

To me, it looks like the Dems are using this crisis to push their policies.

[Solemn Wind]

Reporter, I was thinking that this stimulus package was the Republican Party’s strategy of putting Trump back in the White House again in 2020?

I mean this is a package that if anything it’s something like what the Democratic Party would come up with and approve by the American people that votes Democrats. Because something like this stimulus package would be perceived as socialism to the Republican Party and the morons who supports Trumps.

[hmgROCK]

hung low

begging for government welfare handout
too funny man
this brother was making fun of bernie a few months ago

[w1s3m0n]

Most of the $$ goes to the 1%.  Some of us don’t know numbers and policies.  What happen to the free market the conservatives preached about?  What happen to competition?  Oh when the going gets tough the conservatives will bailout anyone.  Where is your bailout?  I don’t see these policies making you richer?  Oh wait your 401k that all of you use to y’all about it.  It’s decimated by pump and dump by Trump share buyback programs.

[w1s3m0n]

i would have gotten my bailout money, had it not been for these democrats!   

The DEMS are trying to even the playing field for the working class and the conservatives are like give me my $1k versus the 100k you could be getting over your lifetime.  Instant gratification.  How stupid.  Btw, the 1% get 0% interest rate for billions, and they get free $$.  Do you get 0% interest on your mortgage or car loans or student loans?

Conservatives are so dumb.

[Solemn Wind]

Most of the $$ goes to the 1%.  Some of us don’t know numbers and policies.  What happen to the free market the conservatives preached about?  What happen to competition?  Oh when the going gets tough the conservatives will bailout anyone.  Where is your bailout?  I don’t see these policies making you richer?  Oh wait your 401k that all of you use to y’all about it.  It’s decimated by pump and dump by Trump share buyback programs.

I don’t really know what the stimulus plan was all about and I’m not going to pretend like I do. But I have this feeling that if it were to pass the people (which means most of us) that really needed the money will get very little...and those that does not need it, and should even be making charity money contributions themselves, will get a very big piece of the pie.

If Trump and his cronies are involved in a stimulus plan, one has got to be very suspicious.

[Reporter]

Of course. Notice they aren't proposing it to go for long-term. Just getting the votes first.

Reporter, I was thinking that this stimulus package was the Republican Party’s strategy of putting Trump back in the White House again in 2020?

I mean this is a package that if anything it’s something like what the Democratic Party would come up with and approve by the American people that votes Democrats. Because something like this stimulus package would be perceived as socialism to the Republican Party and the morons who supports Trumps.

[w1s3m0n]

I don’t really know what the stimulus plan was all about and I’m not going to pretend like I do. But I have this feeling that if it were to pass the people (which means most of us) that really needed the money will get very little...and those that does not need it, and should even be making charity money contributions themselves, will get a very big piece of the pie.

If Trump and his cronies are involved in a stimulus plan, one has got to be very suspicious.

$2T stimulus.  1T to the people.  500B to corporations as loan guarantees.  400B to small business as loans guarantee.  100B to hospital and other interest.

If you do the math by proportion.  99% get 50% and 1% get 50%.  That’s why these deal sucks.

[hmgROCK]

$2T stimulus.  1T to the people.  500B to corporations as loan guarantees.  400B to small business as loans guarantee.  100B to hospital and other interest.

If you do the math by proportion.  99% get 50% and 1% get 50%.  That’s why these deal sucks.

Damn dude
U giving the people too much $$$

Let me break some math for u

$2400 (2 checks) x 175,000,000 (adult half the population)=$420 billions
$1000 (2 check) x 175,000,00 (kids)= $175 billions

$420+175= $595 billions  for the people

[Believe_N_Me]

Reporter, I was thinking that this stimulus package was the Republican Party’s strategy of putting Trump back in the White House again in 2020?

I mean this is a package that if anything it’s something like what the Democratic Party would come up with and approve by the American people that votes Democrats. Because something like this stimulus package would be perceived as socialism to the Republican Party and the morons who supports Trumps.

This is why Trump is winning and the Dems are losing. They pulled this sh.it hoping that Trump wouldn't offer a stimulus package due to his conservative party's views. AND YES, we Conservatives do view this as Socialism. We don't blame Trump, however. We blame the Dems for pulling this sh.it. But we understand Trump doing this as a power move, while at the same time helping Americans.

I don't remember what movie it was where the bad guy was holding the phaj ej's partner hostage. The phaj ej called the villain's bluff by shooting his partner in the leg. He was no longer a good hostage for the villain.

Don't mess with Trump. Dems didn't think he would give a stimulus package. They were hoping he'd let the people go without so they'd be mad at Trump. WRONG!

BUT REMEMBER that those who hurt the most from this b.s shut down hoax tend to be Democrat voters. Democrats were willing to sacrifice their own voters!!!!!

 

[DuMa]

The DEMS are trying to even the playing field for the working class and the conservatives are like give me my $1k versus the 100k you could be getting over your lifetime.  Instant gratification.  How stupid.  Btw, the 1% get 0% interest rate for billions, and they get free $$.  Do you get 0% interest on your mortgage or car loans or student loans?

Conservatives are so dumb.

I wanted to make a point that buying a car now has a 0% interest on the loan.   I used to sell cars for a living while in college and I can tell people why 0% interest in 84 months is not that all great of a deal in retrospect.  Then you got people taking this deal and they say they will pay that off before the 84th month.  0% interest man..  why you wanna pay it off early for?   Then you got people paying full pop for the car in cash.  Cot dayam people needs a better financial advisor. 

[DuMa]

I know a friend who got no where to go when she had to be tested for wuhan nasty.   She trained the guy like 3 weeks prior but he had it so she and a whole bunch of people had to self isolate and because she has no place to isolate, she rented a hotel.  5 days to wait for results.  Few days after that just to make sure.  You do the math.  How much does that cost?  Oh and ordering from grubhub and door dash for all them days too.  Her credit card probably maxed out.

My stimulus check, I'm giving it to her to help support.  I think it is prorated cuz the threshold is like $75K.   

so I'm not getting my whole check but half be good. 

 

[YAX]

hung low

begging for government welfare handout
too funny man
this brother was making fun of bernie a few months ago

  That's right, Repubs want to give businesses $1.8T  as long as they get a small hand out of $1K as part of the deal.  Trump supporters are drooling over it but just a month ago they all claimed it would be socialism to give $1K to every adult in the US when Andrew Yang suggested it. 

[w1s3m0n]

The notion that PEOPLE/SERFS are STUPID and LAZY and somehow need the ENLIGHTEN ARISTOCRAT/MONARCHY dates back to the MEDIEVAL PERIOD.  This notion survived through modern time through an outdated form of scientific management called TAYLORISM.  In TAYLORISM, workers are STUPID and LAZY like a MULE.  They need to be coaxed with a carrot ($$) to work, and they need to be coax with a stick (punishment) to work harder.  In fact, in the late 20th century the 20th century greatest CEO was JACK WELCH of GE.  He created this model called RANK and YANK that was ultimately based upon TAYLORISM.  Today, in the field of management theory, we don't call it Taylorism anymore, we call it Management X or Y theory.  In management X theory, the leader takes a negative view of the workforce.  In management Y theory, the leader takes on an optimistic SERVANT LEADERSHIP role.  What we've found in organizational theory is that Theory Y is SUPERIOR to Theory X.  Why is that?  First and foremost, having Y brains is better than 1 brain (manager).  In addition, the ARISTOCRATS/MONARCHY rarely INNOVATE.  It is mostly the "stupid/lazy" people/serf who create all the innovation that benefits everyone.  In the 21st century, if you lead with Theory X, your organization will fail guarantee.  China leads with Theory X.  The US has shifted to Theory Y more and more, but there are still PLENTY of uneducated and ignorant people who adopt an outdated notion of value, work, and innovation.  WE DO NOT NEED A GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS US.  WE DO NOT NEED THE 1%, THE 1% NEEDS US.

Btw, Trump leads with Theory X.  It's time some of you people update your management theory.  For you religious conservative people, guess what style Jesus used?

if you do the math...give all $2trillion to the people and when we're out of this coronavirus issue, there would be no jobs lefts.  the general people will become lazy and not expect but demand for more government assistance...w ho's gonna wanna go to work and for those that do...where?  the basic idea of this stimulus plan is not for long term purpose but to help those in need, now.  saving america companies and business is a priority, since they are the backbone of the economy, they do most if not all of the hiring (aside from governmental jobs).

i like to say, those who don't appreciate Trump, should deny acceptance of this stimulus fund.

[DuMa]

More like what you gonna do with your stimulus check?

I got people telling me that they will buy more guns. 

I got people saying they will by more toilet paper. 

I got people saying they will hide it under their mattress. 

I'm giving mine away since I can't use it for anything essential.   Non essentials are more fun to use your free money on but those are all closed down.  Got money but can't spend it.  I'll be rich this year.