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Las Vegas, Casinos, Gamblers Get Huge IRS News (Jackpot)
Don't want to tell the IRS about your jackpot from the casinos? You may not have to (which Caesars, MGM, and others should love).


Slot-machine players pump their money into the so-called one-arm bandits because they want to win a jackpot. It's a rare occurrence -- MGM Resorts International (MGM) - Get MGM Resorts International Report and Caesars Entertainment (CZR) - Get Caesars Entertainment Inc Report did not build Las Vegas/global casino empires by being generous -- but when it happens, the thrill makes all the losses worthwhile.

When you play the slots, you hope to see three 7s, or whatever the winning combo might be. When that happens, and you hit the big jackpot, there's that moment of elation, followed by a period of waiting if you won more than $1,200.

It's a sobering moment that tempers the joy of your big score. If your win exceeds $1,199,99, your machine locks and you get the dreaded "wait for attendant" note on the screen. That wait, for some reason, is rarely short. And when the attendant does show up, it's to take your personal information in order to report your win to the Internal Revenue Service.

Nobody having a good time wants to involve the IRS (the organization doesn't seem as if it knows how to party). Now, a new bill being introduced in Congress would make you less likely to have to report your winnings.

Congressional Gaming Caucus Wants to Raise the IRS Ceiling
When you hit a jackpot that touches the $1,200 level, you get issued a tax form and your win gets reported to the IRS as income. That means you pay taxes on it at whatever rate you pay.

You can, of course, offset your win with any gambling losses. That's not something you track. But all the major casino companies, including Caesars and MGM, do track your gambling and enable you to download a report (as long as you are a member of their loyalty programs who plays while logged in).

Doing any of that makes something that's supposed to be fun a little less so. And now, Congress members Dina Titus (D-Nevada), Guy Reschenthaler (R-Pennsylvania), Anthony Brown (D-Maryland), Mark Amodei (R-Nevada), and Steven Horsford (D-Nevada) have introduced the Shifting Limits on Thresholds, or Slot, Act. This bipartisan legislation would raise the threshold for slot winnings.

“The current threshold for reporting slot winnings was set at $1,200 in 1977 and has not been updated in the 45 years since. If indexed for inflation, the threshold would be around $5,000," Titus said.

"Due to inflation, the number of jackpots hitting that threshold, triggering a shutdown of the machine and necessitating excessive paperwork requirements for the patron, has increased dramatically."

And while changing the rule would result in less income for the government, it would provide benefits for the casino industry.

“This creates an unnecessary burden on the gaming industry, an economic driver for Southern Nevada and other communities nationwide where slot machines exist," she said.

"While I believe appropriate taxes should be collected on winnings, raising the threshold would reduce paperwork and ensure this is accomplished more efficiently."

Technically, You Still Owe the IRS
Raising the threshold on jackpots means that no paperwork reporting your wins to the IRS would be generated. Technically, you owe taxes on any income, but from a practical perspective, this would mean that a lot of smaller jackpots don't get reported.

That's good for Caesars, MGM, and the gaming industry because it cuts down on work (and eliminates a period where someone just won big and their machine locks while they wait for an attendant).

“The 1977 slot jackpot reporting threshold hurts both Pennsylvania’s gaming industry and its patrons,” said Reschenthaler.

“Because the threshold has not kept up with inflation, it has resulted in a drastic increase in reportable jackpots, which trigger tax burdens for winners and compliance burdens for casinos.

"Increasing the threshold will eliminate this onerous red tape, ensuring the gaming industry can continue to support good-paying jobs and foster economic growth in southwestern Pennsylvania and across the country.”

It's very rare for the government to want less of your money, but the sponsors of this bill see it as good for business, specifically the casinos in their home states, which ultimately leads to more tax revenue.

“We need to ensure our tax code is keeping up with the times, particularly when it comes to the gaming industry," Brown said.

"Updating a 45-year-old threshold on slot winnings is common sense and good governance, that both reflects the decades of economic changes since 1977 and reduces excessive paperwork and reporting requirements. The Slo Act is a necessary modernization of our tax code.”



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Winning the $1200 isn’t worth it. People put in more than that to win it and then have to pay taxes on it. Stupid.



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Majority of them jackpots are around them ranges of $1,200 to lets say $2,500.  Anything more than that is a rarity and a big win. 

So raising the stake do cut off the man power for the slot tech to chase you down with them papers and then pay you.   I'm not too proud of it and I'm gonna stop this nonsense because this one year, I won something like 25 w2g jackpot forms. 

Upon tax season, I'm fawked in so many ways.  You know them jackpots winning amount, you have to add it to your gross income which increases your tier and may spike a higher tax bracket.  This is tax season once again.  Due to the pandemic, folks like myself may hit the casino to kill the weekend blues because cooping up in the house is madness crazy so you go to the casino often enough and you will hit your fair share of jackpots.  I was smart enough to let the casino tax withheld 24% every time I get one.  I'm doing my tax in a few weeks with my CPA and maybe I'll do the professional gambling route claim so that I can add my receipt for gas, food, training (LOL) and other stuff into the deduction.  In this way, I'll feast off the the standard and itemize deduction.  I'll take a casino lost so that I do not have to pay back them federal tax.  All them 24% tax withheld, I may get it all back.  Then again, there goes the state tax I gotta pay since the 24% is a federal withheld and not the state holding. 

So complicated and thus why the casino is losing prime players.  Once you hit enough jackpot to get in trouble with the IRS, you may not want to bet big to spark a hand pay jackpot anymore. 

When they increases the limit, this may bring back them old time players and the casino will win again.

Not I though.  I'm through with gambling.  I only play small to tease a drink and have fun only.  I never learned my lesson till chit hits the ceiling.   



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