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Moob Lajleeb

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what is thaj?
« on: October 20, 2014, 08:52:27 AM »
what is thaj?  thaj in this context is not talking about the difference of dialect, the homonym/homophone/homograph issue, thaj/thiaj or thaaj/thaj, but the simple thaj that is use by both dialects and mean exactly the same for both dialects.  what exactly is thaj when you hear someone say koj yuav thaj cuab moogtwg?  cuab in this case should be cuabyig, but does that mean thaj is a verb and not a noun as the loan for when taking a picture as in ua thaj kuam haib-haib nawb?  of course this also lead to the difference between thaj cuab and cuab thaj.  to me cuabthaj is different from cuab thaj. yeah, the debate about whether we should compound or not in the written form.  while cuabthaj is a noun, the material belonging, but cuab thaj is a verb, an action as in photography taking, hanging a frame, setting a trap and such.  then could cuabthaj be materialistic while cuabyig is humanistic? that lead to does that mean thaj is a verb which mean to move?  in that case, can we just say koj yuav thaj rua qhovtwg instead of having to use the word tsiv?  what’s the difference between koj yuav tsiv rua qhovtwg and koj yuav thaj rua qhovtwg?  should we need to define the difference between tangible and intangible? could thaj be the physical tangible moving while tsiv could be both physical and emotional?  would it make sense to say kuv thaj tau ntawm koj tamsis tsiv tsi dlim ntawm koj [lub sab]?   



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Moob Lajleeb

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Re: what is thaj?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2014, 10:19:41 AM »
your thaj, or thaj in that particular context is a loan, so regardless of whatever and however many dialects we may have, pronunciation wise we'll try to be as close to the original language as we could, therefore whether moob leeg or moob dlawb we would still say the same thaj.  however my question was geared toward the thaj that both of the main dialects moob leeg and moob dlawb have used since the inception of our language.  again, the cliche say if you don't use it you'll lose it.  while the trend now a day may seem to be to distinguish the differences between the dialects [thaj/thiaj, thaaj/thaj, etc.] what i am asking is for the definition of thaj that is not a loan but the original or as we know it now a day as the original anyway, that is not only sound the same but also write the same and mean the same.  while the loan thaj is a noun, our original thaj should be a verb.  therefore if we use it as a verb, do we always have to have a helping verb or any other words along to help make that verb clearer, or could we just continue using it alone, the single thaj, in order not to lose it?  to discover more about the meaning of thaj, do we also need to bring thajyeeb in to play?  no, we are not talking about an opium field here but a blissful condition.



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nrhiav hlub

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Re: what is thaj?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 02:56:55 PM »
Thaj = position

such as...ua thaj twg thiaj lis zoo nyob or thaj twg thiaj lis tau tub?   :D
1 tug tuaj sab sauv 1 tug pw tuaj sab hauv ces muab 2 lub pob caus los sib dhos kom sib nkag ces sib sib zog tswm kom los 1 co kua dawb dawb ces tau tub lawm mas.



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