The 18 clans...

[TheAfterLife]

I see the 18 clans like state. As I was studying American Government, they hold a leader to control the smaller leaders in a tribe. Since I fell in love with Federalism, I am VERY aware of confederalism because of states rights. There are no such thing as STATES/PROVINCE rights. For example, to control the 18 clans of the Hmong, there must be a leader who is above the 18 clan in order to maintain balance and control. Think of as a marriage. The 18 clans who are minor leaders will share power within each other along with the Head, who is the Federal, will have a balance and check of powers. Beyond the Federal will the republic, AKA: The Law. I would not give my people a pure democracy; I would give a republic to which America has. America is not a democracy nation. We are just voting so that the angry farmers from the Shay's Rebellion won't rebel ever again.

I wish there was a Hmong leader who can learn the Federal System and use this to govern ALL Hmong people as a whole. It's powerful enough to help everyone. I pray we won't become a unitary system or a confederal system. I hope we become a federal system.

[dogmai]

We are just voting so that the angry farmers from the Shay's Rebellion won't rebel ever again.....

.....Resulting in a democracy.

[chidorix0x]

 ... kekeke ... 

Sum1 who cannot even understand federalism among their other babbling is in no position to critique or proposal anything 18-Clan wise ... kekeke ...  ... 

[Stybic_Kemaka]

Hmong need to go squash n claim some helpless native land n before they talk create anything ... This Amiskas learn laws n live

[r3b1rth]

I don't know much about the Federal system.

TheAfterLife, in my opinion, instead of wishing and hoping for a leader that will lead our people, we need to be leaders ourselves. Instead of being a bystander and talking about how things could be, start taking actions to make your ideas a reality. Too many people talk and hope that things will change but nobody stands up and does anything about it.

We as Hmong should encourage and support each other.

I have no interest in politics but my personal challenge when I was younger I used to hate how Hmong people were because I saw that many of us didn't know how to love each other. Don't get me wrong, I love Hmong people, I really wanted us to get along and advance as well as other Asians. In the military, I was around a lot of Filipino and saw how much they help each other. Even if they were complete strangers! They will help that person like family. They even call each other Brother and Sister. I was so jealous that other Hmong people in the military didn't even talk to me even if I said Hi, and they just act like we're strangers. It's a shame.

But now that I am wiser, I know that I can only change myself. I will show my Hmong brothers and sisters kindness and love because I am okay with myself. If they don't like me or misunderstand me, I will wish them well. It's only human nature for people to have feelings like hate, love, fear, etc.

[minorcharacter]

That would be a very efficient system and I'm sure everybody will be happy.  Assuming we're all replaced by robots.

[one_change08]

I see it more like The United Nations where all the clans have equal power. You are talking about clans. If you are talking about Hmong in general, then it will work with one leader like general Vang Pao. But because 18 clan arised, a leader above all clans have to be a leader with no last name. Our leaders believe that our own clans are more inferior than the other clans. Why do you think that in marriages when our ancestors did something wrong to other clan, they bring that problem up and our generation gets put that blame on and marriages become more difficult.

I believe that there shouldn't be a 18 clan system. We need to reunitify Hmong as a whole. But how do we do that? That were you said we need a leader. And indeed we do. But not in a million years. Hmong clans are greed with power. It has been like that since our ancestors and won't change. The only way I see that it can change if we turn 18 clans into.... Hmong.

[one_change08]

Sorry, no sexism allow. We are all equal, no matter what. If they don't like it, then we must destroy that old culture and ways of practice. We don't want to look like the Chinese who does the similar things like us. Therefore, we need to be more open minded.

I never said anything about sexism. Also, Chinese is communist. We Hmong people never want communism. And to your whole point in federalism, General Vang Pao created the 18 clan. He wanted to be that leader you seek of. But because Hmong people are full of greed for power, the 18 clan broke from Vang Pao's watch. And now that Vang Pao is gone, we have no leader to become federalism like you said. But still, Hmong people are filled with greed and hate. Hmong people are two faced Hippocrates. I am not say that all are, but most are. If you want a federalism, you got to rise to be a leader to do that. When that time comes, I'll vote for you. But in the mean time, one clan has to be better that the other... That's what the OG's see. Good luck.

[Pwko_hauvkojlubSiab]

I never said anything about sexism. Also, Chinese is communist. We Hmong people never want communism. And to your whole point in federalism, General Vang Pao created the 18 clan. He wanted to be that leader you seek of. But because Hmong people are full of greed for power, the 18 clan broke from Vang Pao's watch. And now that Vang Pao is gone, we have no leader to become federalism like you said. But still, Hmong people are filled with greed and hate. Hmong people are two faced Hippocrates. I am not say that all are, but most are. If you want a federalism, you got to rise to be a leader to do that. When that time comes, I'll vote for you. But in the mean time, one clan has to be better that the other... That's what the OG's see. Good luck.

I just do not get it. these so call educated young hmong people are talking about 2nd and 3rd classes citizenship.  we are ameska citizen, and we live under the rule of law.  now that a non-profit organization wants to put us all like a second class citizen that we have to live under the rule of law and a sub-law that is created by a non-profit organization. how stupid would you think we be?

hmong people do not have a land to govern, at least we should develop guideline systems to inform all the hmong people and not a set of rule as governing body to the hmong peole...and treat us Hmong people like Tribal People who are still running wild in the mountains--and holding them as a second class citizen--especially we are living here in Ameska. 

if we hmong people would to have our own country, I then can see the reason that we need to justify such governing structures.

I hope this makes some senses to your young generation...

[one_change08]

I just do not get it. these so call educated young hmong people are talking about 2nd and 3rd classes citizenship.  we are ameska citizen, and we live under the rule of law.  now that a non-profit organization wants to put us all like a second class citizen that we have to live under the rule of law and a sub-law that is created by a non-profit organization. how stupid would you think we be?

hmong people do not have a land to govern, at least we should develop guideline systems to inform all the hmong people and not a set of rule as governing body to the hmong peole...and treat us Hmong people like Tribal People who are still running wild in the mountains--and holding them as a second class citizen--especially we are living here in Ameska. 

if we hmong people would to have our own country, I then can see the reason that we need to justify such governing structures.

I hope this makes some senses to your young generation...

I totally agree with you. But because Hmong people can't follow a guideline even if we have one is because hmong is full of greed for power and higherarchy.

But in all, Hmong people are already lost. They scam one another, they even try to scam their own family members. They talk highly of themselves to others and act like they are better and have more. They say that their beliefs are the original Hmong beliefs.... But they believe in God. I don't know, but have you heard of those church people who said that if you go to their church and believe in what they believe, and if you have a son who likes their daughter, they can get married for free. But if an "outsider" marries their daughter, she's not free. WTF is that?

But yeah, after our parents and grandparents pass, we will have it better. But we will not have our culture anymore. We will not even know how to ua been or how to khis tes or nyuj dab. We will, be just another Asian American.

[Pwko_hauvkojlubSiab]

I totally agree with you. But because Hmong people can't follow a guideline even if we have one is because hmong is full of greed for power and higherarchy.

But in all, Hmong people are already lost. They scam one another, they even try to scam their own family members. They talk highly of themselves to others and act like they are better and have more. They say that their beliefs are the original Hmong beliefs.... But they believe in God. I don't know, but have you heard of those church people who said that if you go to their church and believe in what they believe, and if you have a son who likes their daughter, they can get married for free. But if an "outsider" marries their daughter, she's not free. WTF is that?

But yeah, after our parents and grandparents pass, we will have it better. But we will not have our culture anymore. We will not even know how to ua been or how to khis tes or nyuj dab. We will, be just another Asian American.

because hmong people are not all well educated.  it would be very hard to get the guide line to work, but it is a started. 

there is no such thing that whose religion is the right religion--mankind are having only wishful thinking--and there is no such thing as uaneeb, khistes and nyujdab.  just because  one goes to church and everything about ritual is disappeared into a thin cloud--church people worship the high Dab, and that is why they ask him on every occasion they are doing some thing.  since, people can just say we are no longer practicing these rituals, then there is nothing to it.  this meant only one thing and that is men is his own God.  men can do and say anything good and that is the end of that...

so, religion is self-image that it is only making each of us individual to be happy--and there is no such thing about any ritual or cultural....br other.

talk about religious, check these links

Eddie griffin-Religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opncVf-eKec

George Carlin - Religion is Bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

Bill Maher - new rule, the best of religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

top 10 anti-religious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYN0UCUkXQE

[Xyooj96]

Mars1 is a good project that we hmong may want to hop on board. a whole new world to own

[one_change08]

Mars1 is a good project that we hmong may want to hop on board. a whole new world to own

Lol. Too bad they already chosen their 100.

[Pwko_hauvkojlubSiab]

I am a socialist-capitalist. I like helping the poor since we all know how poor people are when they struggle. I see Japan's political view is a socialist and a capitalist at the same time since I was taught by my teacher in college. If we majority people that are uneducated, we must seek or force someone to take political science and be our leader for our next generation.

"When I feed the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why people are poor, they call me a communist." Don-Helder Camara of Racife, Brazil