I didn't say Hollywood anime. I was comparing stories to Hollywood. I am more of a story guy that gets me hook. If I don't see a hook, then I am not biting IT!
Japanese anime is good, about a FEW ONLY! In this today of age, anime aren't hitting in the USA market...not that much. Only a few that would get a pick up.
You do know why animation is huge in other parts of this planet called Earth and why its not taken as seriously in other parts of the work right? Why is it that a Bollywood movie has singing and dancing? Or why Chinese movies work like a Peking Opera? If you think it is because the story wasn't good or there wasn't enough action or cgi then you've still can't see a much larger, more complex issue than 'Hollywood wouldn't pick it cuz it sucks and all Asian people suck at movies'. Again, define Hollywood so we know were on the same page. You understand that the studios make movies and hire people to make the movies. Do you understand the marketing aspect is a whole different animal? Studios have pre-screening, screening parties. They go out and do surveys asking people 'if there was an Afro Samurai movie would you go see it?' They are checking the demographics of viewers, what they eat, wear, listen to, watch, purchase, age, sex, etc etc etc. They can spend millions before the movie is even made just to see if they'll make a penny. You've heard of all the stories of how a director was going to make a movie but the plug was pulled. Why? Ask yourself why was it pulled? The writers, directors and even producers were pushing for it but who has the final word? I know its a strange feeling but think about it. Surely living in LA has given you the hot scoop that everyone else here is missing. Am I right?
To keep it simple, who holds the keys to television, movies, music in the USA? Who can and does control what we see, when we see and how we see it? Who rates the movies so only a certain group can go? Who is it that tries to keep the movie only 1hr30min (because American audiences get bored so easily), who calls the shots for cutting out scenes, hiring big name actors to promote the film? Think, its not that hard to see or understand.
Traditionally because you grew up in the USA probably assumed anime, animation and cartoons were all lumped into the same category. Your Jetsons, Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Tom N Jerry kind of cartoons. Not to be taken seriously, just slap stick shows for children. We grew up to this and *gasp* its still seen this way because why? Why doesn't Hollywood make an Afro Samurai movie for the USA? Because maybe a majority of the audience doesn't know who Afro Samurai is or wouldn't understand anime because the majority have not been exposed to it. Maybe simply there isn't any money to be made because not enough people will go see it or it will cost too much to promote the movie and with their data collected there's still no sure fire way that it will make any money.
Also, you hardly ever see NEW anime series that comes on T.V. every night or day. The truth is, they are not hitting what the people want. Whenever Hollywood say, "Make Sci-Fi movies because of money," or "Go make horror movies," etc. The movies that came out successful as a sci-fi movie was The Avengers. Why is it a lot better than some dumb Asian movies? That's because they got money. Asian people can't make a good budget CGI that is as good as USA. In fact, when DID 3D entered in the realm of Asia? Well, it entered pretty late before USA got theirs first. Therefore, if you look at the movie industry by watching the story, the character, the shots, the timing, and the special effects, America holds the best shows in this world. If you think Asia has some better art than USA, I would like to see some. The only movie that was decent in Anime vs. USA movie industry would be Afro Samurai.
If you think that special effects are what makes a movie then your argument is doomed. You've already penned it.
CGI is a tool, just like a paint brush. You can use CGI just like you can use a movie set, or a painted backdrop, or a camera, a light, an actor. It should be used to tell a story but sell it? Seriously, don't go this route, skip it. Pretend you didn't say it because this will hurt your statement because Hollywood LOVES audiences that just want simple stories and lots of action. It is so much easier to make sequels when people will be lining up the streets waiting to drop money without thinking about it. They love zombies, they're so easy to make and market towards. Really, don't go this route, I want to see where your argument will go trippin' and stompin' but not here.
Do you know why Afro Samurai was made to be the best? The first one was great, the second one was stupid. Your notion of logic requires some work. "It's the best" because the first was great. "It's the best" but the 2nd one was stupid. So there's one 'great' and one 'bad' and it still makes it the 'best'? How so if one is good and one is bad? See what I'm dealing with here?
Oh, so you watch a story that has no story but just a kick a.s.s. story? Well, then I guess you like watching dumb movies then. I guess you don't care much about art then. Here is where you're going to back track. How can you critique a whole movie, series, book, music, television show without even seeing it let alone trying to understand it? Did you do this with math or science during school? Do a few, fawk I'm bored math sucks.
"It all sucks! Those science guys doing stuff? Science sucks! Teacher, math sucks! "
"Why does it suck? Did you finish the problem?"
"No! i did a few and it sucks!"
"How do you know it sucks? You only did two problems, there are 5 problems. You haven't finished."
"But I know it sucks!"
"How, you never finished it?"
Explain to me how a limited knowledge of information gives you the ability to understand the concepts? This is arrogant. You can't hate or love something without understanding it. You can't become a critic without knowing the issues. Really this is failure, you're riding on a sh1t ton of hubris. This is why I've been asking for your definition of Hollywood and while you're still trying to go around the problem you still can't understand why I don't accept your statement. Don't ever go to a book review if you haven't read the book.
You know who sounds like that? It was Patrick Star and the reason why I chose him is because when he made his FIRST music to be put on the radio, there were tons of haters that brought pitchforks to kill him. The reason why they want to kill him is because of his annoying art. The truth is, Guren Lagan SUCKS! That kind of a art goes to the trash. I mean, would you take a red picture to be art? About six guys I know consider a red painting to be art and they BOUGHT IT for $600 bucks just to buy a RED PAINTING. Dude, that's like me buying a piece of white paper and calling it art, or taking a crap is calling art. I hate to break this to you but art is subjective. It's flippin' amazing because an artist creates their work, their art, their form, their style, their expression. Then they place it on a medium. The audience takes the artist's form and sometimes heavily places their own contexts on top of it. Sometimes they agree on the same context, sometimes they see differently but regardless critics will take the time to explain why. The wild thing about art is that monetarily it is dependant on the demand. Again, leave this out, we are going to art and economics. You're trying to shift the arguments again. Stay on topic because it sounds like you know little of art. Really, take a deep breath and back away.
Okay, name more than 20 that has won the oscars here in America.Why? Movies that you liked didn't win Oscars. You said successful movies. Usually that means what has made grossing profits or has had lasting impacts for the audiences and society. You can have as many directors, actors, actresses that get nominated but only one winner. Again by your definition none of your movies would be successful; again that flawed logic. Wouldn't it be prudent to say that the Oscar panel views their nominations with great regards but chose one as it exemplifies over the rest?
And why in America? Dude, Hollywood is international! Shit is bigger than just this pond in the US!
That's because you haven't seen how Hollywood is. I live in LA, what are you talking about?
Wow. Amazing. I'm speaking with an expert because you live in LA. Can I claim that I know everything about Mother Nature because I live on Earth or have you also claimed that superfluous title? Are you Man-God because you just are? I'd call you director extraordinaire based off of your examples but you said Asians can't be good directors.
I know its long winded and maybe most of the viewers don't really care. But if anything viewers can at least account your credibility and what you have to say with discretion. I just want to stand up to malicious statements that you have made and make sure others understand that there is more to Hollywood than Afro Samurai, being an expert living in LA and incorrect statements about Asian directors and movies; both animated or not. Hollywood is pretty cool but it is not what you think it is.
If you would still like to continue then start a new thread because I'd still like for this original post to proceed. I'm always looking for things to do and watch (to the end credits, not just 5 min it). This is why I come here for ideas on what to watch. But yeah... Your statement isn't getting you anywhere anytime soon.