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'It's a real thing': Drivers and passengers report motion sickness in EVs
Strong regenerative braking can cause passengers to feel queasy.


An oft-touted advantage of owning an electric vehicle is one-pedal driving, when drivers can slow down a vehicle simply by lifting off the throttle.

But as more Americans swap their gas-powered cars and trucks for an EV, some are also realizing there are drawbacks to the one-pedal lifestyle.

"It can cause some people to get sick," John Voelcker, a former editor of Green Car Reports and a contributing editor at Car and Driver, told ABC News. "Strong regenerative braking, which recaptures max energy, can cause motion sickness. There is a learning curve to lifting off the accelerator in an EV ... you have to modulate it."

Voelcker said he has felt queasy at least twice while riding in the back seat of a Tesla.

"The drivers didn't know how to modulate Tesla's strong regen braking," he recalled. "I was thrown around a little bit."

Ed Kim, president and chief analyst of AutoPacific, said Teslas are the "worst offenders" because they can be "very jerky and really abrupt."

"Most automakers have tuned the throttles to be jumpy in EVs to emphasize the power, but the side effect is that they can lurch and make some occupants car sick. You have to be so careful on how to apply the throttle ... if not, it can lead to an abrupt seesaw motion for passengers," Kim told ABC News.

PHOTO: A driver is seen inside of a Tesla Model Y car during its presentation at the Automobile Club, Sept. 5, 2020, in Budapest, Hungary.
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Kim said his wife has gotten nauseous in a Tesla Model Y and he's heard of similar experiences from other motorists. The extremely quick acceleration of EVs can be disorienting to Americans who learned how to drive with an gasoline engine.

"EVs have so much torque -- you tap the throttle and the thing just takes off. The abruptness of power delivery can be unsettling to some people. If you set really high regenerative braking, the car lurches forward and rocks and back forth a lot," he said.

Dr. D.J. Verret, an ear, nose and throat doctor in Texas, said motion sickness in EVs "is a real thing."


Verret pointed out that the lack of sound in an EV can also worsen the experience for passengers, especially those already prone to motion sickness.

"The brain sets up a model for what it expects in certain situations," he told ABC News. "In combustion cars, you hear the engine revving and know someone is stepping on the accelerator. The car moves forward. In an EV, the auditory and visual inputs don't fit the model that you are actually moving."

Passengers are more susceptible to dizziness and nausea in an EV than drivers, especially when they're in the back seat.

"If you're the driver, your head moves when you turn the wheel to the left," he said. "Our brain is responding to what it's expecting to happen. If you're a passenger, you can't see those motions. If you have a certain lateral acceleration -- like turning a corner fast -- that will increase your potential for dizziness and motion sickness."

Monica Jones, an associate research scientist at the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, has been studying motion sickness for years. It's a topic that's gathering "a lot of interest," she told ABC News, adding that researchers are still not clear on why some people are more sensitive to motion sickness.


She recently completed a study with an automaker that looked at longitudinal jerk, "which is what happens with regen braking," she said.

Jones and her team modulated the jerk in an automated vehicle while maintaining its peak acceleration. Participants were "very sensitive to the jerk," she said.

"Motion sickness ratings increased on average throughout the duration of the trial and significant interactions were observed between levels of longitudinal jerk and time," she said. "The highest rate of accumulation or earliest onset of motion sickness was observed for the jerk condition with the highest magnitude."

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Jones said this research could help automakers ameliorate motion sickness in EVs as they continue to refine the technology with newer models.

"One-pedal driving is a very different experience than combustion engines," she said. "Even if you learn how to effectively do one-pedal driving, uncertainty in the environment -- like traffic -- can still cause motion sickness."

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There are EVs available now that ride similarly to an internal combustion engine vehicle, a bonus for those looking to avoid a Tesla-like ride. Hyundai's new Ioniq 5 N, a chic hatch that makes 641 horsepower, comes with fake gearing and artificial engine noises, delivering a gas-powered experience on and off the track.

Matt Farah, host of the popular "The Smoking Tire" podcast and editor-at-large for Road & Track, said he was so blown away by the Ioniq 5 N that his perspective on EVs has changed.

"We now know it's possible to make an EV fun," he told ABC News. "The synthetic gearbox and synthetic noises successfully mimic what we like about gasoline sports cars."

Farah said he, too, has been queasy in an EV before, especially when going really fast or doing full throttle launches.

"If I do two or three launches in a row in an EV, I don't feel great after," he said. "The way an EV motor delivers power -- and the absence of sound -- are what make you feel dizzy going fast in one."

Hyundai's decision to include the fake gearing and noises (N e-shift and N active sound+) "were not created to alleviate queasiness or motion sickness, although it is possible that these features might indirectly help reduce some of those effects for electric vehicle drivers," a company spokesperson told ABC News.

Either way, Farah, who test drove the Ioniq 5 N in California last month, said more automakers should follow Hyundai's example.

"You have more control over what the car is doing with the gears. You want to control what the car is doing -- that is the point of driving," he said. "You realize the sound is fake, but after a few minutes of driving, it's giving what you need and it works."

The Cadillac Lyriq, a sleek electric sport utility vehicle that went into production last year, may not have fake engine noises but its tuning and drive quality has won over motorists who are anti one-pedal driving.

"It's the closest approximation to an ICE car that I have seen in a while," Voelcker said.

PHOTO: Kevin Cansiani, an engineer who worked on the Cadillac Lyriq, said the electric SUV delivers seamless torque when the throttle is pressed.
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The Lyriq does not lurch forward unexpectedly like some of the other electric SUVs, Kim pointed out.

"The acceleration is more gentle," he said. "The passenger experience is more like a traditional gas car -- no matter who drives it."

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Kevin Cansiani, a senior engineer at Cadillac, told ABC News the Lyriq drives even better than an ICE car.

"My gripe with ICE transmissions are those shifts and jerks you always get," he said. "With the Lyriq, there's just this feeling of seamless torque. The goal of the engineers was to make the Lyriq have a premium drive quality."

Cansiani 's team tuned the Lyriq so that passengers and drivers alike would not be affected by the SUV's throttle response.

"We came up with a common set of throttle mapping and had specific drive scorecards. We took objective measurements on jerk -- that sting you feel," he said.

The Lyriq offers three regen modes -- off, normal or high. Cansiani said the majority of Lyriq customers choose the normal mode for the "instant feel of negative torque."

And driving with the regen off won't impact range, Cansiani noted.

"You're not losing a lot of range," he said. "We have blended braking on the Lyriq. The brake pedal, when pressed, will command as much regen as possible. When maxed out, only then will it transition to friction braking."

For electric car rookies, there are ways to minimize the shock when driving some EVs on the market.

"People who are newer to EVs are not accustomed to how powerful and torquey these things can be," Kim noted, adding that it's relatively easy to get comfortable with the tech.

He recommended that drivers set up eco mode in their EVs to make the throttle less sensitive. "It will give you a more relaxed driving style," he said.

His other suggestion was that engineers adjust the throttle mapping in an electric vehicle so it more closely mimics how a gasoline-powered car moves and operates.

Voelcker said regen braking is different on every EV and some vehicles may be better than others for those with a lead foot. He personally is a fan of the driving technique: "I don't touch the brakes. The car does the braking for you."

Worst case scenario for those who are having trouble with the EV's stop-start manner? Shut off the regen entirely, Voelcker said.

"It's about muscle control in the foot," he explained. "People who drive gas cars, they don't glide. They accelerate to the stop sign then slam on the brakes."

He added, "A lot of motion sickness, honestly, is because of the driver."

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Florida man convicted after admitting to heinous crime during job interview to become a police officer
Stephen Bodley, 26, was convicted by a jury last week of sexual battery of a child and faces up to life in prison


A Florida man, who aspired to become a police officer, admitted to sexually abusing his cousin during a police department job interview and now faces life in prison.

Stephen Bodley, 26, was convicted by an Orange County jury last week of sexual battery on a child, the office of State Attorney Andrew Bain said in a news release.

Bodley first mentioned "playing sexual games" in a sworn officer application with the Apopka Police Department. He again mentioned the crime during an interview.

"The certified voice stress analysis examiner performed a voice stress examination on Bodley," Bain said. "During the examination, the examiner asked Bodley to expand on concerning answers he provided in a pre-test questionnaire."

A Florida man, who aspired to become a police officer, admitted to sexually abusing his cousin during a police department job interview and now faces life in prison.

Stephen Bodley, 26, was convicted by an Orange County jury last week of sexual battery on a child, the office of State Attorney Andrew Bain said in a news release.

Bodley first mentioned "playing sexual games" in a sworn officer application with the Apopka Police Department. He again mentioned the crime during an interview.

"The certified voice stress analysis examiner performed a voice stress examination on Bodley," Bain said. "During the examination, the examiner asked Bodley to expand on concerning answers he provided in a pre-test questionnaire."

He is scheduled to be sentenced on June 24. The conviction carries a sentence of up to life in prison.

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Postal worker seen stealing cash, lottery tickets from mail on USPS footage, feds say

A postal carrier who federal prosecutors said was caught on camera stealing cash, lottery tickets, gift cards and other items from the mail in western New York has avoided a prison sentence.

After community members in Rochester complained to the U.S. Postal Service that “their mail had been tampered with,” surveillance cameras were installed in the employee’s delivery vehicles and recorded her from January 2022 to November 2023, according to court documents.

On 38 separate occasions, the mail carrier was seen rifling through nearly 90 pieces of mail she was meant to deliver along her route, court documents said.

After opening envelopes, prosecutors said she ripped them up, tossed them out of her vehicle, or resealed and delivered them.

During one shift, she stole cash from two envelopes, which she then ripped up, before putting the money into her wallet on Feb. 28, 2022, according to an affidavit. That same day, she opened two more envelopes, kept a lottery ticket found inside, and resealed both pieces of mail, the affidavit says.

Other items she stole from the mail included ticket stubs and documents, according to prosecutors.

In January, the 40-year-old Rochester woman pleaded guilty to theft of mail matter by an officer or employee, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of New York.

On May 10, a federal judge sentenced her to serve two years probation, the U.S. Attorney’s Office announced in a news release. Prior to sentencing, she faced up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to prosecutors.

The woman’s defense attorney didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment from McClatchy News on May 13.

While the woman was under investigation, investigators carried out “mail integrity tests” by putting cash and gift cards inside greeting cards that she was supposed to deliver in May and November 2023, prosecutors said.

On Nov. 2, she was detained, investigators executed a search warrant and found one of the gift cards they placed in the mail inside her duffel bag, prosecutors said.

The investigation was led by the USPS Office of Inspector General.


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Vietnamese Americans outraged as Los Angeles County honors Jane Fonda on Fall of Saigon anniversary

“It's a day that we mourn,” Nguyen said. Which is why Ta and Nguyen were outraged when leaders of neighboring Los Angeles County declared April 30 “Jane Fonda Day” to honor the celebrity for her environmental activism. The lawmakers immediately began pressuring officials to rescind the recognition.



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Former House Speaker Paul Ryan says he’s not voting for Trump : 'Character is too important'

“Character is too important for me,” Ryan told us at the Milken Institute Global Conference. “[The presidency] is a job that requires the kind of character [Trump] doesn't have.” Ryan, who left the speakership in 2019, has been vocal in his opposition of Trump since.

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I’ve shared my husband with 35 women in the past year — it’s the best marriage I could ask for

Sharing is caring.

An Australian woman who’s shared her husband with 35 women in the past year says her marriage is stronger than ever.

Honey Brooks made the bold declaration in a video shared to Instagram earlier this month, before insisting it was her idea to bring other women into the bedroom.

“I’m obsessed,” the content creator claimed after revealing she was always present when women were having sex with her husband

“Everyone is going on saying ‘You guys aren’t happy’ and ‘You are not going to last in a marriage’ and ‘This is ridiculous, you guys [act like you] aren’t even married’,” Brooks continued.

The bisexual beauty said her husband happily went along with her proposal to sleep with other women — and she hasn’t looked back.

“This is the best kind of marriage you could ask for,” she cooed.

“Um, hello, like we not only get to enjoy the hell out of each other, but my husband gets to enjoy so many other women and so I!

However, some of the Aussie’s followers were close-minded about her open marriage.

“I would want to be with my one and only,” one monogamous man maintained.

Others attacked Brooks for her kinky confession, including one who sniped, “Most not be much good in bed if you can’t please your man, or just maybe he’s looking for a female with a brain that he can have a conversation with?”

But others applauded the content creator’s confession,

“This is your relationship, you get to choose the dynamic that is right for you,” an admirer cheered.

“Totally with you,” a second weighed in. “We’re doing this with my wife for 5 years now, never been more in love and happy!!”


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Automotive Discussion / Re: Whats everyone driving now?
« on: Today at 12:24:27 AM »
Good thread IMO!  O0

I find that the older I get, the less I lust after toys like cars and bikes unlike my younger years where I would get a new car and/or bike every other year or have multiple cars and bikes in my stable at once. It's probably the "been there, done that" factor...

Currently, I'm still rocking my 2005 Taco 4x4 6-Speed manual. Not looking to sell it or trade it in for a different car any time soon because I may not be able to find another 4x4 with a 6-Speed stick shift again since there's only a handful of 2nd Gen Taco 4WD with a 6-Speed manual tranny in the country the last time I checked.




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it's uncommon for us midwest folks to have 6 ft tall wooden fences

Got SCARED after the "midwest" neutral PH members showed him how stupid he is so he back pedal from "no fence in wi" to "uncommon"... ;D ;D ;D

Anyways, here's what the "midwest" neutral PH members have to say about their fences per the "legit" "ALL CATTLE" PROOF quote below:

I'm in the Midwest and I love the 6ft privacy fences...So, yeah, I love the 6ft fences.

"SEEING IS TRULY BELIEVING YO"

 ;D ;D ;D

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i rather touch myself

It's not like you have any other option (per the neutral PH members)...

Left hand?

Why don't you run along and focus on your thing like playing with your hands aka wives.

Left or right hand?

"SEEING IS TRULY BELIEVING YO"

 ;D ;D ;D

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New Jersey Marine arrested after allegedly making threats to kill White people, 'began planning' mass shooting
His posts included possible targets for a mass shooting, such as a local gym and an Aldi grocery store in Robbinsville


A Marine was arrested in New Jersey after he allegedly threatened to kill White people in various social media posts and apparently began planning a mass shooting, federal prosecutors said.

Joshua Cobb, 23, of Trenton, was brought into custody on Friday, May 10, and was charged with transmitting a threat in interstate and foreign commerce after he allegedly posted statements online bragging about his interest in becoming a serial killer and threatening to "cause mayhem on the White community," according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey.

According to court documents filed in this case, Cobb had compiled detailed information on locations he was considering as possible targets for a mass shooting, which included a local gym and an Aldi grocery store in Robbinsville.

His phone also allegedly contained notes on how to smuggle firearms into New Jersey.


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Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

Kansas City Chiefs placekicker Harrison Butker used his platform as a commencement speaker at Benedictine College last weekend to attack Pride Month and transgender people, the coronavirus pandemic, while also telling women to get back in the kitchen.

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...directly to his face  ???

I mean no balls at all to fight the hatred..

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Ann Coulter's Bluntly Racist Admission To Vivek Ramaswamy Is Jaw-Dropping

Right-wing commentator Ann Coulter told ex-GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy Wednesday she would not have voted for him because he’s Indian. (Watch the video below.)

The unvarnished remarks oozed racism as Ramaswamy, whose parents emigrated from India, listened politely and later praised her on X (formerly Twitter) for “having the guts to speak her mind.”

Coulter declared on Ramaswamy’s “Truth” podcast: “I agreed with many, many things you said ... when you were running for president, but I still would not have voted for you because you’re an Indian.”

“There is a core national identity that is the identity of the WASP,” she said, using an acronym for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. “And that doesn’t mean we can’t take anyone else in ― a Sri Lankan or a Japanese, or an Indian. But the core around which the nation’s values are formed is the WASP.”

Ramaswamy appeared unruffled by her remarks and noted that they shared an opposition to dual citizenship. He then asserted that a child of immigrants would have greater loyalty to the country than disgruntled seventh-generation WASPs.

Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) was not impressed.

“I wasn’t surprised that Ann Coulter made a racist statement about Vivek,” he wrote on X. “What surprised me is the weakness and lack of self respect of @VivekGRamaswamy. He’s actually promoting this episode and praising the person who spewed raw racism to his face. I feel sorry for Vivek.”

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other PHER in here already show your fake ass THEKING that midwest folks don't have 6ft wooden fences like yall do
its uncommmon

Got SCARED after the neutral PH members showed him how stupid he is so he back pedal from "no fence in wi" to "uncommon"... ;D ;D ;D

Anyways, here's what the "midwest" neutral PH members have to say about their fences per the "legit" "ALL CATTLE" PROOF quote below:

I'm in the Midwest and I love the 6ft privacy fences...So, yeah, I love the 6ft fences.

"SEEING IS TRULY BELIEVING YO"

 ;D ;D ;D

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General Discussion / Re: What is wrong with the Brandon family...
« on: May 14, 2024, 01:54:07 PM »
probably fake news

we got TRUMP in court as I TYPE THIS
rawdogging stormy daniel

Says the closet TRUMPER:

I like trump

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Trump is alot like me

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I have to agree with trump...

"SEEING IS TRULY BELIEVING YO"

 ;D ;D ;D

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just buy me one of this and sent it to my house

You mean to your mommy's basement?

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i rather rawdog these than cheat on my wife like TRUMP does

Says the closet Trumper:

I like trump

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Trump is alot like me

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I have to agree with trump...



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my wife is a really nice kind woman




"SEEING IS TRULY BELIEVING YO"

 ;D ;D ;D

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